View Full Version : Napping in Start box.... any ideas????
4th May 2010, 11:52 AM
Daughter has a talented - but slightly confusing 17hh I.S.H. He's done a few competitions, but his problem is insecurity...... we've worked hard to conquer that..... he loves his jumping proving to be bold, but he's a tinker when leaving the start box - or area before XC....... as if to say "hey, where are all my mates?!" ....... he's just done his first B.E. (with a professional rider - friend on board - to test the water!).... he left the box, but napped about 100 ye ards up the course.... she got him moving forward after a few seconds, and after that he went clear! We don't want to upset him, but want to correct him before this becomes an 'issue'. My daughter is due to compete him herself at a local Hunter Trial next weekend..... and I'm sure she'll have problems at the start...... any ideas?!
5th May 2010, 10:11 AM
My Basil had a similar problem. He'd warm up fine, go over to the start box, start, go ten metres then rear and spin if he could not see the fence right in front on him, he took out the taped fence at Somerley BE Novice, sending the wooden stakes flying, I've never seen a mobility scooter move so fast. It took us 45 seconds to get to fence one. All I could do was get him closer to it so he finally saw it then he was off! He flew round clear, our Personal Best (worst) was best dressage, double clear, but 93.2 time! Very nappy piggy at West Wilts.
I found that if I walked him into the start box and trotted most the way to fence one, keeping him forwards into my hand, he was better. I let him take canter when he was ready, if I tried to rush him he'd be naughty. We never had a problem once over the 1st fence. I also picked and choosed my courses, I know West Wilts is bad for a nappy horse as you loop round the warmup for fences 1, 2 and 3. Burnham Beeches is a fab course as the start is away from the warmup. Stilemans is not so great on a nappy one as you come back then loop away from the warmup again. Firle you turn away from the lorry park at around fence 5 and a lot of horses don't like that.
Good luck to your daughter at her next event.
5th May 2010, 10:24 AM
Ohhhh thanks for that..... I was beginning to wonder if we had the ONLY nappy one lol !!! Good ideas......I'll tell daughter - ready for sunday..... it's only unafil but cheaper than B.E. to 'train'..... My heart will be in my mouth!
8th May 2010, 04:29 PM
Someone once told me about noise association working in the start box. When out hacking teaching a horse that a certain noise means you are going for a canter and then making that noise in the start box to trigger them going forward.
Never had to try it though as my horse is ace in the start box.
10th May 2010, 09:15 AM
Thanks BossManTom....... sounds interesting!!!
NEWS UPDATE ******* Daughter did an open 3'3" Hunter Trial yesterday...... he started off good.......... and went CLEAR...... yippee.......!!!!!!!!!! Maybe he's growing up at last !!!!
10th May 2010, 12:48 PM
Well done to them. :)
10th May 2010, 05:23 PM
Thats great news! This sort of thing clearly happens to the best of them, I was watching the Badminton coverage last weekend and one of the riders (I think it was Sharon Hunt but dont quote me on it) had to have her horse led to her whilst she was waiting on foot in the start box and she literally was flung up and she then had to speed off at quite a pace to the first jump - I assume if he is given too long to think about it he just refuses to go anywhere!
Well done to your daughter!
10th May 2010, 11:33 PM
Can you post some more pictures of the combination - I think I can see something going on but need more images to tell. If you could post or pm some of approach to first or first few jumps and then some later on the course and if you have any of schooling on non competition day then I can check if I am seeing what I think I am.
11th May 2010, 08:54 PM
@ TanyanChewy...... yes it was indeed Sharon Hunt - I remember the previous year - they were eliminated because she couldn't even get him into the start box - she must have been gutted!!!! So has clearly worked on him since then - good tactics I thought as I watched it!!!! Unfortunately my daughter has had knee surgery - and still can't have a leg up - or mount from the ground! So we still could have problems..... but maybe finger's x'd we've got over this start box one lol !!!!
Thanks to all who have replied...... hopefully this will be good for someone in the future with the same type of problem !!!!
I'll be back when we get another!
13th May 2010, 09:14 PM
Yes do not fear your not the only one with start box problems I have issues with Finn. He'll warm up ok but as soon as I am given the 20 sec count down I get a fight on my hands, Rearing spinning backing up and going anywhere but the start box!
I am using a new tactic and only going near the start box in the last seconds so I can literally canter through it!
One of my instructors who is quite well up in the eventing world told me a story of I think it was one of Andrew Nicholsons horses who had to be mounted and cantered from the trailer park and directly too and through the start box with out stopping!
So I think its a case of just working out what is best for you and your horse.
My Finn loves his XC but he gets so over excited in the warm up area I think he naps because of his adrenalin and he obviously feels me get a bit tense at the start as well I really don't think its a case of he doesnt want to do it as once were going he's a machine out on a XC course and gallops round with his ear pricked the whole way :)
14th May 2010, 09:21 AM
Thanks Claire...... nice to know were not on our own....... good advice too!!!
Love your pics!
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