View Full Version : Hi Viz tabard!
noonoo
11th May 2010, 06:10 PM
I need one, where's the best online place to get one that has a good selection?
I've been on Ebay but they're mostly for kids!
Susan
11th May 2010, 06:35 PM
You can get them on a site called Vizwear for under £2. If you want one with Please pass wide and slow' on it you will have to pay a bit more, try Derby House. Think they might be about £9.
Or if you are a slave to brand names, you can go and buy a Rockfish one for £17! LOL! Seriously, does anyone know anyone who has actually paid that for a hi viz vest?!
noonoo
11th May 2010, 06:45 PM
Thanks Susan :D I think i'll go look at that Vizwear site, it sounds reasonable!!
piccolo
11th May 2010, 08:10 PM
Just make sure that it is one of the ones certified for horseys.
Susan
11th May 2010, 08:19 PM
Just make sure that it is one of the ones certified for horseys.
Never heard of this Piccolo! What do you mean? As far as I am aware it doesn't matter a jot, a fluorescent tabard is a fluorescent tabard! Mine is certainly not certified in any way!
piccolo
11th May 2010, 08:42 PM
I think it's riding school "legal obligation" to be wearing one that conforms to a minimum standard. It could also affect your insurance i think too.
Personally, it's a bit over the top, but there you go.
Susan
11th May 2010, 08:54 PM
It is not a legal requirement to wear hi viz on the road, but yes I have heard that insurance companies can be funny if you are in some kind of road accident and had nothing on. And for riding schools, perhaps it is a BHS thing?
The Little Magician
11th May 2010, 10:46 PM
It is not yet (but will be very soon!) a legal requirment to wear reflective or florescent tabards or clothing when riding on the road, but it is already making a big difference with insurance companies if you dont wear them, and if you do wear them they are being very particular about them conforming to the British Safety Standards.
I would recommend you save your money on the horsey ones and buy the 'cheaper' (only because it doesnt have horse attached to it by any means!) tabard that the workers wear to work on sites, this has the specific safety standards on already (something to do with the distance that the reflective strip on them can be seen from.:confused:).
Sorry to sound so vague, but we had some info on the new, to be regulations on selling, buying and wearing reflective/flourescent clothing for horse riding on the roads, the other day. I quickly scanned through it, didnt take it all in and really need to read it again.
My Crazy Clan
11th May 2010, 11:00 PM
I've seen lots of adult ones, for good prices on ebay.
Spockky boy
12th May 2010, 08:19 AM
Mines my running hi viz jacket, didn't cost a lot either. It works for me.
Roo
12th May 2010, 09:30 AM
I have a strongbow one :D :chuckle: - my mum's friends, boyfriends. I'm not sure why he was given it, and all the safty standards stuff.
But I have seen alot of adults on ebay? I'd buy the one that says 'Does my bum look big on this?' :lol:
noonoo
12th May 2010, 10:16 AM
Thanks for your replies :)
lilholley
12th May 2010, 05:29 PM
The v-bands stuff is really good! They often have sales on their website. My tabard is pink and purple and has a little pocket which is really handy in the summer when I don't always have a pocket for my phote & keys :D and Bella has matching leg sparkles
chance encounter
14th May 2010, 06:47 PM
I like the one I got on Ebay for BCE. It has flashing amber lights on the front and red ones on the back. Obviously you can choose to either have them flashing, or just on or of course off! She never goes out on the road without one. She has had it for many years now and still looks like new and we have never had to replace the battery.
sazzy925
16th May 2010, 02:51 PM
You can get them from local stores for next to nothing, may save on your p&p - I got mine free after passing my riding and road sense badge in pony club.
I think it's good sense to wear high viz tabards regardless of insurance, I don't think it's a legal requirement in riding schools or anything yet - but either way they're cheap as anything for one, and since i've been driving I've realised how good they are.
Horse Mad Mum
16th May 2010, 03:54 PM
shires do a good one with a zip up the front and pockets it was £10 I think the velcro goes on the cheap one eventually !! I like mine HMM X
BEX101
16th May 2010, 04:03 PM
We've always used cheap ones but it looks like with new regulations comming in we will have to splash out for rosie
Gix
11th June 2010, 01:27 PM
and since i've been driving I've realised how good they are.
now thats a refreshing change! I dont wear hi viz, experience on my mc tells me that they make no difference because hi viz or not, if a driver isnt concerntrating he/she wont see you even if you have big signs up saying "i am here".
I have a cupboard full of hi viz tabards and jackets.
noonoo
26th June 2010, 08:54 PM
I like the one I got on Ebay for BCE. It has flashing amber lights on the front and red ones on the back. Obviously you can choose to either have them flashing, or just on or of course off! She never goes out on the road without one. She has had it for many years now and still looks like new and we have never had to replace the battery.
I've just seen one on a website for £11 - 12, is that what you paid? They look good.
WeeB
28th June 2010, 04:41 PM
mine was a couple quid from the riding club (its got the club name on the back so i have to be on my best behaviour when out riding!! lol!)
I always were one and always have. Tabard and hat band for me and tail guard for B (leg bands when i remember and he has a waterproof hiviz sheet for when its mank weather!)
lil_legs
28th June 2010, 05:39 PM
Have always had it instilled in me to wear one. Would never go out iwthout one. And as boring as it makes me seem to some people I always make whoever I am out with wear one aswell.
As a driver as well as a rider, I can't beleive how many people don't wear them and I always notice those that are wearing them far quicker than the ones that aren't.
I too have a cupboard full, so if anyone I ride with tries the excuse well I don't have one. They do now haha!!
In winter boys wear an exercise sheet and always leg bands aswell.
Interesting that it is probably going to become a legal requirement, and I think should be. As with wearing hat's on roads, but definately with the tabards being legal. If you doon't wear a hat, it's you that gets hurt physically. If you don't wear a tabard it could be the driver and/or passengers that gets hurt aswell if they don't see you in poor visibility and could have done with a tabard.
I wonder how well known that will be or how well advertised. I know from other forums conversations on this it won't change some people's views or make them wear at least a tabard, unless they actually police it properly, I don't think it will make most people that don't wear one now where one then.
My Crazy Clan
29th June 2010, 12:24 AM
I wouldn't wear what someone said I had too, ifs a chap Hi-Vis then so be it, it all does the same job, if it ain't a bargain from "pound land" or "Ebay" then I won't buy it, I can't afford all this expensive stuff they bring out, I make my own "young horse slow down" tabards.
easyrider
29th June 2010, 07:55 AM
surely hi viz is hi viz! and i would never ride without mine, i can see riders ahead in theirs so they do work, those that ride out all in black on dark horses blend into the scenery are are at times hardly visible....they are putting themselves at hi risk for what? vanity as that what is boild down to, i know a lot of riders who wont wear them as they think they look silly.....ignorance is obviously bliss for them
lil_legs
29th June 2010, 12:07 PM
It's a huge pet hate of mine.
I haven't noticed it so much on this forum, most people seem pretty sensible and have some common sense.
But on other forums I have noticed on other threads on this subject people who say they never wear any and won't ever wear any.
I just cannot see why anyone wouldn't.
When I walk my dogs along our road they wear a hi-viz jacket. Tyler then keeps it on at the yard, in case a rabbit runs out onto the road and he follows lol! Never happened yet, Tyler is very good and will only go around the yard, but you never know, anything could happen.
I just find it selfish of these people not to wear it. Surely as a rider it should be seen as their duty to make sure they are easily seen?
An argument most of them bring up is, it won't slow people down. Or drivers should be more observant.
One person on another thread said, all drivers should expect I'm going to be around the corner and should drive accordingly.
Ahhh in a perfect world yes that could be the case, but it isn't a perfect world and they don't and when people drive round a corner that split second between seeing someone with a reflective on and seeing someone without one on could be all that's needed to potentially stop an accident!
It angers me that these people cannot get that through their heads, because when it comes down to it they think that drivers should have more consideration and it shouldn't be down to us!!
Rant done for now lol!!
noonoo
29th June 2010, 08:28 PM
They should definately be worn.
The other day I was driving to a friends house, was turning a tight bend slowly and there was a horse rider literally in the road JUST after it. I saw her because of her hi viz, and I thought to myself if she hadn't been wearing it, it would have been a nasty accident. It gave me enough time to sit and wait until she got her horse into the yard.
Being a rider myself now, I know when and where I should expect people to be riding out so I know to be cautious.
lilholley
29th June 2010, 08:35 PM
Out of the ten or so riders that are at the yard opposite me, only one wears hi-viz - it really puzzles me! Surely if you could do something to help prevent something bad happening to you or your horse then you should do it?
Gix
30th June 2010, 11:53 AM
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Being a rider myself now, I know when and where I should expect people to be riding out so I know to be cautious.
and that is the big difference, being a motorcyclist I know to look out for bikers, being a horse rider, I know to look out for horses, I have known a copper get knocked of his bike (marked) when a car driver pulled out of a junction and "didn't see" him. Have you seen how much hi viz cop riders wear? Even their bikes are marked in hi viz.
a little food for thought for you, when the sun is shining and its nice and bright, how much contrast against natural background does hi viz allow? :cheekywink:
Gix
30th June 2010, 12:02 PM
One person on another thread said, all drivers should expect I'm going to be around the corner and should drive accordingly.
That person is right, as a driver you should never drive faster that you cannot stop comfortably in the distance you can see clearly.
It angers me that these people cannot get that through their heads, because when it comes down to it they think that drivers should have more consideration and it shouldn't be down to us!!
It should be down to everyone, we are all responsible for safety, not just one group of people, that includes drivers showing more consideration too. In poor dark conditions hi viz should be worn, in bright light it can actually be detrimental to your visibility.
lil_legs
30th June 2010, 04:31 PM
That person is right, as a driver you should never drive faster that you cannot stop comfortably in the distance you can see clearly.
It should be down to everyone, we are all responsible for safety, not just one group of people, that includes drivers showing more consideration too. In poor dark conditions hi viz should be worn, in bright light it can actually be detrimental to your visibility.
You have completely took those two quotes and not included the middle bit of them...
One person on another thread said, all drivers should expect I'm going to be around the corner and should drive accordingly.
Ahhh in a perfect world yes that could be the case, but it isn't a perfect world and they don't and when people drive round a corner that split second between seeing someone with a reflective on and seeing someone without one on could be all that's needed to potentially stop an accident!
It angers me that these people cannot get that through their heads, because when it comes down to it they think that drivers should have more consideration and it shouldn't be down to us!!
Rant done for now lol!!
It is the responsibilty of everybody, I totally agree, but in this world you have to treat everyone as though they are dumb and don't know how to drive properly and look for things.
All drivers should be more observant, but surely as a rider, motorcyclist, walker, cyclist, anything that is outside of a potential killing machine we all know as cars, they should do everything they possibly can to prevent an accident.
In bright sunshine, I tend to opt for the florescent tops rather than the reflective ones for the glare reason, don't want any chance of that being brought back to me.
Every single road user should do their upmost to make sure they are in a position to stop accidents from happening.
Drivers are the worst offenders though, time and again I have been behind cars that have overtaken horses on blind bends, gone shooting round corners where I have held back in case there is a horse or anything else there.
Most of the drivers from the respective areas know where horses are about, and drive accordingly, but if you get people from towns and cities that don't really think about horses on the road, or anything else for that matter they don't think about that first and foremost.
It's not right at all they don't think about it, they should, nobody is saying they shouldn't but the fact is most drivers don't concentrate as much as they should on the road.
Wouldn't it be lovely if everyone could be trusted, it'd be a lovely world to live but if people aren't used to horses, have horses around them, it's not the first thing on their minds.
I live in an area where there are no horse signs near me to even warn drivers that we are likely to be about, as soon as they get into the 60mph limit that's exactly what they do!!!
Gix
30th June 2010, 05:19 PM
you have just said more or less what i said, but in more detail lol
Drivers are worse, because of the security a metal shell affords them, complacency.
In bright sunshine I would go for flourescent pink, or darker colours, avoid whites, yellows, light blues and greens, its difficult to see white on yellow, blue on blue, yellow on light colours etc, visibility is all about making yourself contrast rather than blend with the colours around you. Hi viz vests are only really beneficial in poor visibility such and damp conditions etc.
rozbug
4th August 2010, 10:30 AM
You do talk a lot of rubbish...are you just trying to wind everyone up?
High vis -pink/orange/yellow- depending on the seasons- gives you a better chance on the roads. there is no argument. I ride, I drive , I don't have young eyes.....
Gix
4th August 2010, 03:18 PM
You do talk a lot of rubbish...are you just trying to wind everyone up?
High vis -pink/orange/yellow- depending on the seasons- gives you a better chance on the roads. there is no argument. I ride, I drive , I don't have young eyes.....
eh? of course not! Why the aggression? I was just trying to say dont rely on hi viz to make you visible to complacent car drivers! Hi viz works during the day by contrast, if you wear hi viz, wear a dark top. In failing light it is a whole different ball game! It all depends on where you ride, and weather conditions.
PS. I dont have young eyes either, I have very poor eyesight, not helped by years sat in front of broken pcs lol, but if you are on the road your eyes need to be of a certain standard, with or without corrective measures.
Belle
4th August 2010, 07:26 PM
Hi picked up a decent yellow riding hi viz tabard in Aldi today for £2.99 had some other decent riding bits and bobs at bargain prices.
doodledoo
4th August 2010, 07:53 PM
i got mine from robinsons, around £20. :cool:
Gix
4th August 2010, 08:02 PM
cor blimey doodledoo! Thats daylight robbery! I have a wardrobe full of em!!! (for my marshals lol)
doodledoo
4th August 2010, 08:05 PM
ha,ha ! did feel a bit daft putting it on after i saw the £2.50 ones mentioned,but what the hell! its very stylish and has worn well over the years! lol :)
Gix
4th August 2010, 08:09 PM
does it zip up and have useful pockets?
doodledoo
4th August 2010, 08:13 PM
yes it does and even a fold away hood! its a proper jacket as opposed to a tabard-perhaps thats why its so expensive! lol :)
Gix
4th August 2010, 08:19 PM
is it the padded bomber type one? I actually quite like those.
doodledoo
4th August 2010, 08:22 PM
yes its the padded one,really warm for winter but not so good for summer!
Gix
4th August 2010, 11:33 PM
well dont pay £20 for a summer one!!!
Actually surprised they dont do a bomber type one with removable lining like motorcycle textiles, I wear leathers in summer but if its wet i can wear textiles and remove the lining, wear them for ice skating too so I dont hurt myself when i fall lol
noonoo
23rd September 2010, 08:23 PM
I bet the girl I saw riding today wishes she'd put some hi viz on. It was CHUCKING it down this morning on my drive to work. I was worried for a horse and rider - her horse was dark, and the rider was wearing no hi viz at all, just dark clothing! I literally could barely see out of my windscreen doing 20 it was really bad. Just hope she got back okay. Even after I passed her it was getting heavier and heavier.
Guesstimation
24th September 2010, 08:22 AM
Try v bandz and also lyndas horsewear think she has a website and ebay shop
Spooky&Co
27th September 2010, 12:54 PM
My local Quality Save has lots in at this time of year. They have a lot of the woolworths stock from when they shut down aswell as other brands.
I have HiViz Reflective Vests, Legs and Arm Straps, Dog HiViz Vests. I also have a Roll of Yellow HiViz Material and High Reflective Silver Tape. (It's blinding! lol) So I am making loads for the winter even tho we ride in the day time but winter is Dull. Making Thicker triple rective strip leg and arm bands for kids, pony and dogs.
I wear my Vest, Leg and Arm Flashing Reflectives etc Just when walking the dogs. I even made a hiviz band to go over my Leather cowboy hat.
I do have different coloured Hiviz Vests for daytime. I don't care if people think I look odd, I feel safer knowing I will be seen sooner.
I even have the kids wearing them for school run in Morning and Afternoon during Autumn and Winter.
And yes, contrasting on bright Days. You want to stand out, not blend in.
Purple and Pink hiviz can not be easily confused with a green field or blue sky. (Unless it's dusk and the sky is Pink and Purple!)
And there is no such thing as 'overkill' in wearing Hiviz clothing. Only 'being Killed' if you don't wear it.
BE SAFE, BE SEEN!!
Ain't just you you have to worry about and if you don't give a dam about careless drivers being injured at least give a dam about your horse, or the car coming the other way who has slowed down to allow you to pass, only to have the car speeding up behind, seeing you at the last minute and swerving into them and potentially killing all inside. Could you live with the knowledge that you helped to cause said acciedent, even tho car driver was at fault? It would always stay with you.
Just like the image of your dead horse lying at the side of the road surrounded by police and vet. While your being loaded into a waiting Ambulance.
Because I have known it happen to people, I would never not be wearing them nowadays.
I once got pulled over by a policeman, wasn't actualy dark but it was starting to slowly get to dusk time. I had no hiviz on and he was pulling me over to tell me off. What in fact happened was that I would have been back at the stables a few hours earlier if I hadn't have been lying in a field screaming with my ankle bent at a 90 degree angle. I colapsed into his arms.
The reason he was so concerned was his sister had been in an accident on her horse the week before and had broken her back. So I didn't help his love of riding by passing out in to his arms as he grabbed both me and horse!
My Crazy Clan
27th September 2010, 06:48 PM
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