OMG - Cheyenne rodeo cruelty :(

[Zeitgeist Mom]

I was just checking the link on Melissa's Fudge playing with his ball, that I put onto his breeder's FB. When it opened up in You Tube, there were a bunch of You Tube rodeo clips on the same page. (I think because the horse in one of the clips was called Strawberry Fudge.)

Anyway, to cut a long story short - I wish I had never clicked on it. It is horrific! It seems there is a campaign on the go to stop major companies such as Coca Cola from sponsoring this rodeo, and with good reason. There is a video clip entitled '2009 Cheyenne Animal Injuries, Part 1 ' which shows some of the cruelty. So hard to believe this can be allowed in a supposedly civilised country. :(

Please think carefully before watching the clip - it's very graphic.

[IrishGreenSheep]

I couldn't watch past the third one. That's is so ******* terrible, it really angers and upsets me. The poor horses :(

[amandaxx1]

I dont know what to expect, and darnt watch it so I wont

[Anni~Bell]

The poor horse but this is what they are breed and trained to do :( They aren't going to no any other way of life unfortunatly and the likely hood of them being retrained for anything different and being successful is very unlikely :(
Also you need to remember that things like that happen in every day life as well :( Don't shout at me for saying that but unfortunatly animal creulty is always going to be prevented but never stopped completly. Unless they ban rodeo it will open a gate to ban many other sports like that which is most peoples way of tradition :(

I did not agree with the cow thing, was okish until they started letting them loose and running around lame and hurt :( Why couldn't they take them off on the back of a trailer too and then be dealt without out of sight instead of being let loose :(

[The Little Magician]

OMG I feel sick after watching number 6! That was just absolutely appauling behaviour from man towards an animal. There is no way I can watch any more, it is foul.

[beks the artist]

Don't watch it, it's absolutely horrendous and I have been sat here sobbing. It makes me not want to be human anymore.

[vels mum]

Not watched it but can imagine, for this reason I hate rodeo with a passion, they make it all look like good fun but the things they do to get the 'bucking bronco's' as quite disguisting. Lots of cruelty kept hidden as you will find in most sports made for mans pleasure. :(

[injioho]

I daren't watch it! :(

[Pie_x]

I've just watched it, two of the videos. I am so sickened. I really am in dis belief how anyone could do it. Even to those calfs. Sick

Poor animals. It's really made me sad

[My Crazy Clan]

I have not watched it yet but rodeo in my eyes, weather their trained/ its a show or whatever its darn right cruel, I will never agree with it.

[My Crazy Clan]

okay :eek:

Did you see the golden dun, could not even stand and yet silly little men dragging it whilst still on a fecking horse! then they proceed to jump on it to keep it still.

I find its absolutely disgusting the way they throw them calf's about, yes thats really loving isn't it.

Did you see the bay that was holding his leg up and yet they were making it canter about whist being led from a another horse, you could tell he was clearly in pain, hes was panting a hell of a lot too.

[gem]

I couldn't watch past the first one. I'm usually ok with graphic videos but that absolutely takes the biscuit. Disgusting vile scrotes of human beings.

[black crow]

A lot of things they do with calves comes from working on the ranches where they are thrown about.

Sadly i just dont like rodeos. Many these days have 'trained' horses and the horses are 'highly' looked after, however i dont see how this is good justification to treat them so appaulingly infront of an audience. It sets very very wrong messages.

I looked up a lot into rodeo's a couple of years ago, and there are some very disturbing things that have been covered up as best as possible. Yes there will be 'good and bad' events, and i am by NO means some frigging animal rights activist, but it is an unneccecary practice.

[My Crazy Clan]

Totally agree with that BC.

[adamntitch]

omg that is shocking altho my job makes and takes me to see thngs like that first hand it truly is shocking just like i hate horse racing as av seen some truly terrible things i know of a video that was discusted at work about racing if anyone wants me to post it i will but please beleve me it shows a very crap vet and a horse needing shot 3 times before needing an injection to put it down


i have been to the horse slaughter house in the uk one of the only ones still going and it is so shocking what gos on i cant say on an open forum what my job is but if needs be pm me and i will let you know thats why am so defensive over people thinking certain sports i the horse world are ok as i have seen the other side

[BEX101]

it shows a very crap vet and a horse needing shot 3 times before needing an injection to put it down


I'm not disputing there are some cruel people about but why would the actions of a vet point out cruelty in racing?

[adamntitch]

I'm not disputing there are some cruel people about but why would the actions of a vet point out cruelty in racing?

it would not but it just shows that not all vets are good and the ways its done when people are able to take pictures is not the best way to go about and also when the groom and trainer are standing there and dont realy care apart from turning away its all about money it one of the reasons i had a go at the pacing pictures i seen posted by a member on here (i have since said sorry for my harsh words) is due to the way i have seen other countrys ways of doing pacing racing altho over here things are much better than other places

edited to say

i have also seen first hand a vet cutting a horses leg deeper and making the wounds worse to cover insureinse (sp) costs at musselburgh race coarse up here before putting the horse down


sorry gone off topic but it was in the papers and was a well known vet the owner asked for it to be done to make sure the insures would pay out

[black crow]

Adamtitch; Are you talking about stillmans?


I do wish people wouldnt jump on horse slaughter so much without looking at the facts first. Thenagain i suppose these activists would rather horses die 'naturally' instead of humanely, even if they are poisoned or left to starve.

[adamntitch]

Adamtitch; Are you talking about stillmans?


I do wish people wouldnt jump on horse slaughter so much without looking at the facts first. Thenagain i suppose these activists would rather horses die 'naturally' instead of humanely, even if they are poisoned or left to starve.

i dont know what your on about there is nothing humane about putting down heathy horses just for money sorry if am so rude and no am not an animal activist but cant see the point in it i dont disagree with horse slaughter after all horses are livestock but just cause its easyer for some people to take them to slaughter so they get some money back is terrible you seam to jump on my posts have you been to a horse slaughter house i seen a ov pregnant mare be put down for no reason other than her owners did not want her i understand you are a very experianced horse owner and know alot well more than me but i do know the other side due to work and have seen some very bad sights

[adamntitch]

Adamtitch; Thenagain i suppose these activists would rather horses die 'naturally' instead of humanely, even if they are poisoned or left to starve.

and on this part no where did i say anything about horses starving or being poisoned you ov have tinted glasses have you seen the videos of horses left to suffer outside stillmans.

[Tarka the horse]

I defy anyone to come over here and see what happens with "dogger" horses and horses in the slaughter house and not have a problem with it. It is horrific. I HATE it. Horses left to stand on a broken leg that's sticking out of it's knee for 2 weeks waiting for the highest bidder? There's no rhymn or reason for that. It's just sick.

[adamntitch]

I defy anyone to come over here and see what happens with "dogger" horses and horses in the slaughter house and not have a problem with it. It is horrific. I HATE it. Horses left to stand on a broken leg that's sticking out of it's knee for 2 weeks waiting for the highest bidder? There's no rhymn or reason for that. It's just sick.

a bit diffrent over here but at least someone else sees that horse slaughter is not all nice and proper like others seam to think

[Tarka the horse]

It's horrific. We have less legislation over here and welfare charities can't get involved in what goes on because of it.

I've recently rescued a pregnant mare from the dogger here - there is absolutely nothing wrong with her! Nothing. She is the sweetest mare and loves people - who would send her to a dogger?! I just dont get it.

I haven't watched the rodeo video, I dont want to, but I went to a rodeo a couple of weeks ago. The horses were actually fine. I hated watching all the cow stuff though. The bronc horses came in, did their bronc, and I later saw them being ridden around in a normal saddle being very well behaved, which was kind of nice, kind of not!

[adamntitch]

It's horrific. We have less legislation over here and welfare charities can't get involved in what goes on because of it.

I've recently rescued a pregnant mare from the dogger here - there is absolutely nothing wrong with her! Nothing. She is the sweetest mare and loves people - who would send her to a dogger?! I just dont get it.

I haven't watched the rodeo video, I dont want to, but I went to a rodeo a couple of weeks ago. The horses were actually fine. I hated watching all the cow stuff though. The bronc horses came in, did their bronc, and I later saw them being ridden around in a normal saddle being very well behaved, which was kind of nice, kind of not!

yeah some realy nice horses get put for slaughter take it a doggers abit like a fatteren man here its a shame on rodeo horses as there made to buck with that bit that is tightened round there stifle area

[BEX101]

I know we're off topic a bit now but Adamntitch - its clear that you care and that is great but you seem to be taking specific cases and tarring everyone with the same brush.
You cant assume everyone involved with racing is heartless and willing to cripple their horses just for money.
I'd hazzard a guess that just as many ponies have to be put down due to conditions such as laminitis. So i could describe them as poor neglected animals that suffer needlessly and repeatably sometimes for many years.
So are the owners cruel for letting them get the condition or cruel for having them put down?

I've held quite a few horses while being put down and unfortunately it does go wrong at times. Although upsetting for us shooting them is the quickest way. The vet you referred too... after the first failed attempt what do you think his best course of action would have been?

I do like that your passionate with welfare but wouldnt it be better to find out what the "better" practices and educate people, pursuade them to change rather than condem everyone?

[black crow]

i know VERY well what the damn trade is!

I never said you said anything about being poisoned, i was making a statement.

YOU are clearly incredibly misinformed, so dont come on a forum and start slating every single thing under the sun that you think is cruel. I have been involved in racing as well as the slaughter industry, and yes, there are terrible things in it, but branding it all as inhumane and cruel is crass. Stop sitting at home watching a couple of videos on youtube. Learning about the slaughter industry from the likes of terrorist groups like AA is a rediculous way to learn about it, and it clearly shows. Yes i have seen the videos, but i have also seen what really happens, which by the looks of your posts on here and other forums, you clearly havent seen as much as you claim.

Dont even try to pass on that all racing people dont care. Many of them can not stand and watch their horse be put to sleep, so have to turn away. You clearly are a very misinformed person if you think that shows they are uncaring of the animal.

No one wants healthy horses going for meat, but if NO ONE will take them then where the hell are they supposed to go. If you're going to say "someone will take them" then dont bother wasting your time. I have news, no, really there isnt anyone to take them all.

[bimba]

They are awful, I can't believe how they were treating the animals after they'd been injured - there's absolutely no respect for the fact that they are living, feeling beings. I actually felt pretty sick seeing their pain and I'm usually fairly strong stomached.

Adamntitch - you seem to have a lot of opinions.

[Alyria Leila]

Dont watch it!! That is shocking!!!

i was almost in tears watching that!!! If i had been at home i would have been!!!

How can humans do these sorts of things!!!!

[Zeitgeist Mom]

I just don't get how something like that still happens in a first world country. How has it not been stopped? :confused:

[Loony]

I got as far as the calf and turned it off. I just couldn't watch any more. Its absolutely disgusting, makes me so so sad.

[Tarka the horse]

Rhea, I see we both commented on it :) I'm Sundaysweetie.

I have to say, at the rodeo I went to locally over here a few weeks ago, it wasn't as bad as that! If it had been, I would've been torn apart :( The broncing wasn't bad, but I really didn't like the cattle "work". I understand it has a place on a ranch where there are 3000 head of cattle, but to be totally honest, the "workmanship" on that youtube video is very wrong - there are not many cowboys who are that harsh (over here anyway). If you did that to a calf you'd get the sack. I know where there's livestock there's deadstock, but not at the hand of a worker. Most of the people I saw at our rodeo, and I'm guessing the people on this video, have never been on a station, never worked on a farm, they just want to prove their masculinity. It doesn't work.