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fofo
20th October 2011, 09:52 PM
Being new to the Welshy world could all you Welsh Section d owners give me a bit of advice on several topics.

Feathers. Is it okay to trim them a bit. They were trailing on the floor so I trimmed them. Is this okay or should I have my scissors confiscated?

Mane and tail. Do I let this grow thick and long like Stan's?

Showing in M&M classes. What does she wear for in hand? Headcollar or bridle? What type?

Anything else I should know?

Tiaki
20th October 2011, 09:59 PM
With Abbey I don't touch her feathers, mane or tail. Well, with her mane I do cut a bridlepath else it all gets wrapped around her headpiece but other than that, I don't touch anything.

If your showing as a native then mane, tail and feathers should be full and flowing.

As for showing equipment, I know very little about showing but I would have though either her normal bridle or an inhand bridle.

xxx

CityLights
20th October 2011, 10:01 PM
Should be natural with legs and tail not dragging on the floor but long. Mane should be a few inches long. Look at how icarus' mane is thats how it should be trim beard and tufts from ears but not inside them. Bridle fine white halter fine for mares

lozy
20th October 2011, 10:18 PM
Tail can timmed shortish (mid cannon/few inches below the hocks). But not cut straight sort of feathered, will can find a picture if you want.
Mane should be a pulled to a few inches long. Beard and whiskers can come off and ears trimmed flat. Mares look best(IMO) in a white halter.

annmarie
21st October 2011, 06:31 AM
razzle has mane pulled to a few inches tail trimmed whiskers n beard off ears trimmed he is shown in a inhand brown bridle. never needed to trim his feathers mind his hair is fine n silky some sec d have really thick manes n tail here he is in hand
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292630_2130073523883_1007317471_32423174_452319_n. jpg
http://http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/226148_2130088284252_1007317471_32423196_2097971_n .jpg

lil_legs
21st October 2011, 08:19 AM
Hmm. I was always told you cannot touch any part of them they had to be completely natural. I shall be watching this thread.

SB Zenith
21st October 2011, 08:40 AM
Never trim the feathers for the ring. Mane length varies from horse to horse, a huge chunky neck would have more mane IMO while a finer (like razzles) would go shorter to show it off more and make it appear bigger. I normally average it at about 2 hands width, and always feather tails to mid cannon. Whiskers and beard off to show the jawline better, and any trees growing out of their ears are taken off!
Geldings look better in bridles and mares in a nice plaited slip.
Mane and tail length (I know hes a C but it doesnt differ much)
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254616_237841832917138_100000739703835_804543_3588 278_n.jpg

Mane length on a thicker necked mare with a white slip
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216251_201762646525057_100000739703835_610729_7323 651_n.jpg

beks the artist
21st October 2011, 09:47 AM
Never trim the feathers for the ring. Mane length varies from horse to horse, a huge chunky neck would have more mane IMO while a finer (like razzles) would go shorter to show it off more and make it appear bigger. I normally average it at about 2 hands width, and always feather tails to mid cannon. Whiskers and beard off to show the jawline better, and any trees growing out of their ears are taken off!
Geldings look better in bridles and mares in a nice plaited slip.
Mane and tail length (I know hes a C but it doesnt differ much)
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254616_237841832917138_100000739703835_804543_3588 278_n.jpg

Mane length on a thicker necked mare with a white slip
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216251_201762646525057_100000739703835_610729_7323 651_n.jpg

Totally agree, coming from 'Cob Country'. The only thing we do here in Wales is show our Geldings in white 'rope' halters, although I perfer the inhand bridle. Colts and Stallions should be shown in the inhand bridle - perferably with a stallion bit 4 + years (that's how I understand it anyway)

Teg would need a white slip halter. I would keep her mane trimmed and tidy about 8 tgo 10 inches. Don't cut a bridle path unless she has loads of forelock. Trim her beard and whiskers (I hated doing this when Taran went to the county show!!!) Don't trim her feathers. Keep her tail longish and full - it should be trimmed so not dragging on ground. A couple of inches below hocks in a nice length.

Use chalk for her white bits and practice that trot and you running with her!

This was Taran:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v208/97/34/510829597/n510829597_602059_1013.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v208/97/34/510829597/n510829597_602066_3132.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v208/97/34/510829597/n510829597_602065_2834.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v208/97/34/510829597/n510829597_602063_2263.jpg

And a few from the Royal Welsh Show:

Mare's class:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188685_4415949597_510829597_79902_4025_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/190353_4415944597_510829597_79901_3686_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199415_4415959597_510829597_79904_4659_n.jpg

Stallions:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200391_4416234597_510829597_79959_2374_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199587_4416199597_510829597_79952_9899_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190445_4416164597_510829597_79945_7727_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188493_4416039597_510829597_79920_9561_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/196887_4416024597_510829597_79917_8626_n.jpg

My Crazy Clan
21st October 2011, 11:23 AM
For showing I guess you have to go with what they want but at home its down to you only.

Back in the "days" as my mum says, everyone used white halters on they natives, they all went natural too but I know they don't these days.

Me, I would keep them all natural, its nice to see a welsh d with a full mane these days!

SB Zenith
21st October 2011, 12:40 PM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38406_414266706443_539996443_4750574_4487776_n.jpg

My other D paddy with his full mane for you MCC, i dont show him much as hes very very strong when he lights up in the ring, but i dont really touch it much when i do, he doesnt suit it short as he has an enormoooous neck!

*Btw ignore me looking down i was telling him off for being a prat! haha*

vels mum
21st October 2011, 01:07 PM
I like a short mane on a Welsh D and think Teg would look super smart, however you have to get the shape right, curve it upwards to give an appearance of a strong muscled neck.

In fact I have a pic of Icarusgirls first pony who had a lovely shape to her mane, I was trying to copy it for Dollie :lol:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/helphorses/Other%20ppls%20horses/Picture057.jpg

And a pic of another horse who's mane I fancied ;)
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/helphorses/Other%20ppls%20horses/jackad3-1.jpg

CityLights
21st October 2011, 01:20 PM
Hmm. I was always told you cannot touch any part of them they had to be completely natural. I shall be watching this thread.

'natural' i think is quite an odd chocie of words for welshes, things like shetlands, fells, dales, highlands are 'natural' like vertuially no trimming at all but welshes are shown 'natural' as in dont plait up leave the feathers but not full hairy like the fells and stuff are

IcarusGirl
21st October 2011, 02:05 PM
I like a short mane on a Welsh D and think Teg would look super smart, however you have to get the shape right, curve it upwards to give an appearance of a strong muscled neck.

In fact I have a pic of Icarusgirls first pony who had a lovely shape to her mane, I was trying to copy it for Dollie :lol:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/helphorses/Other%20ppls%20horses/Picture057.jpg


I was just thinking 'Ooh what a nice shetland' :lol:

Yep, about 6 inches long would suit Teg. Icarus has it like that. I would find you a picture but the darling beast rubbed loads of it out this year so it looks rubbish!

gem
21st October 2011, 05:32 PM
Sorry to hijack - SB Zenith is that first photo at the indoor at Landlords?

fofo
21st October 2011, 07:19 PM
Wow! Lots of fantastic advice and pictures. Thanks so much everyone.

I wondered why her tail wasn't all neat and straight at the ends. Now I know! Feathering the tail :lol:. So exactly how do I keep it like that?

SB Zenith
21st October 2011, 08:00 PM
Sorry to hijack - SB Zenith is that first photo at the indoor at Landlords?

No gem its croft tops collecting ring, but we do go landlords sometimes for worsley gala and the welsh summer shows.

Fofo, if its feathered already then no worries for a while. We have a rake, usually used to loosen the coat but we use it to thin manes and tails. Just try and get it to taper at the bottom, like a swish tail but thinned out. The thinking behind it is that the thinner the tail is the less weight drags it down and the horse can lift it more. If that made any sense at all! haha

gem
21st October 2011, 09:32 PM
Sorry yeh realised that after I'd posted. They have the same walls and floor surface but landlords have their letters higher up :)