awfully scoured??? *update*

[Sasca]

Hi,

Hazel has been weaned off Rowan on and off for a while now. They've allways been led apart from ech other and Hazels even gone to a show without making a sound but when we put them in seperate fields out of view, they just shouted for each other (which i can ignore) and hazel litterally fenced walked every ounce of fat off herself in just two days. She looked like a hat rack or something you'd see on RSPCA films. I couldn't cope with seeing her like that so they went back together. They were then stabled next to eachother so no suckling in sight but it meant niether got turnout which was unfair. We eventually got the fence fixed so they were then stabled opposite eachother in different herds and all was well in the world...hoorah! i 'd cracked the weaning issue....

Untill...hazel started defecating like a fountain! its been like this for three dayz or more now. I think its started after i gave her a bit of no-bute in her feed when she went foot sore....it was only a couple of doses in her feed.

Im not sure whether it had anything to do with it or not really but anyway, i turned her to walk it off, and she's better in herself but still the issue is there. Her tail and legs were horrendous and have been scrubbed and tied up (tail not legs!) She's back out as she improves outside but what are your thoughts? just weaning issues? she's still got a bag on her....

Just thoughts and ideas and maybe herbal antibiotic remedies you can think of? anything you give for upset tummies? just want to float this around really...

thanks

p.s.....vet has been informed but not seen the issue yet, its on the agenda if it keeps up!



*update*

She was travvelled to the vet today. She is ok in herself though quieter then usual, eating and drinking normally.

Vet had a good look and even though her heart rate was slightly higher then normal, she wasn't running a temperature. She was up to date with worming and dosed again when this started just incase. We had a feacal analysis done and showed she was all clear. So that just left a bacterial infection (possibly salmonella) so she's on a course of antibiotics for 10days. That was the xmas money gone quite quickly!!! fingers crossed, We all felt that she was ok and going to be fine once she fought it off. she's a tough coookie!!!

oh, and Rowan came with her for his first trailer trip and acted like a pro. Loaded before her (and better then her!) straight in and went to sleep and nibbled on hay...bless him!

[Tiaki]

Poor Hazel :(

Not much in the way of advice but the best thing for "poorly tums" is NAF Pink Powder. Helps keep the digestive system working correctly and is a great immune booster. Pop her on that and see how she goes, certainly isn't going to do her any harm. I use it on all mine but especially rescues that come in needing a pick me up :)

xxx

[Tnavas]

I'd be inclined to let the vet have a look. Severe diaorhea is very dehydrating and is not good for her.

[vels mum]

Id def get her on the NAF pink powder asap. This can only do good and will sort out the bacteria in her gut, if she is already on the slim side a few days of scouring could really bring her down in condition. Good luck with getting her sorted x

[CityLights]

its probably just the upset of weaning, but i would keep an eye on it its probably nothing too suspicous or anything just got a poorly tummy from the baby, i would try give her lots of hay or a good big bran mash and she should be normal again in the next few days

[Sasca]

thank you, ill go straight onto pink powder.

tnavas - ive explained her to the vets and they wanted to give her 5 days or so before they looked at her, just to allow her to get over it if its due to weaning. The wierd thing is, she is putting weight back on, just slowly. She's allways been a pain to get weight on if she's not pregnant!

[JJJ]

Herbal treatments:
Slippery Elm Bark Powder and Chamomile Tea!!

The dosage to treat scours is 1/3 cup powder mixed into a paste with a quantity of cold Chamomile Tea. This paste is given directly or added to the horses feed or bran mash.

[JJJ]

Also....try and increase your horses fibre intake!

[Sasca]

thank you. There has been no improvement as, she has been brought in and given the biggest pile of hay. We're going to take her to the vets tommorow. She was doing mild heaving actions....this isn't a weaning problem...this is gut infection i think....bummer!

[Tiaki]

Ditto shaz, let us know how it goes. Still stick her on NAF Pink Powder, works wonders for the gut and boosts the immune system :)

xxx

[bimba]

Hope she's okay, definitely sounds like something more than just a weaning problem. When Mac had gastric ulcers caused by stress he had the worlds runniest bottom and his breathing was a bit laboured, maybe her digestion has been really affected by the stress.

[The Little Magician]

I am a product advisor for NAF, and I would suggets definately seeing the vet.
If it is gastric ulcers caused by the stress of weaning, which can seriously upset the good bacteria of the stomach, and cause dehydration because of the extent of the diaherria, then I would advise using,
Naf Haylage Balancer, because it is basically gaviscon for horses.
I would also recommend you feed the 10 day course of Naf electro salts travel to replace all the electrolytes she will have lost through her diaherria,
along with the 10 day course of Naf Biotics, which is a blend of pro and pre biotics which should help the gut to rebalance.
When the 10 days are up I would then swap the Electro salts and Biotics to the Pink Powder, and continue the Haylage Balancer till its finished. Using the Pink Powder on its own will not be enough in this situation.

Regards her bagging up still, I would recommend feeding sage because it helps stop/prevent mastitis, mint because it reduces the milk flow, and remove any alpha a or sugar beet becuase both these products will increase milk flow.

All of these products feed together should not cause conflicting problems in any way, but if you are unsure please pnoe NAF and speak to their more qualified advisors.

Good luck, and I hope she gets better soon.

[rockinghorse]

Might be worth getting a worm count done too..... projectile diarrhea in horses can be due to a worm burden.

[Sasca]

Thank you TLM, Will follow that after the vet i think. thats very helpful

She went onto pink powder after this threads suggestions, Just getting her booked in for the vets now...

[zboo]

Has she got a temperature?

I would start with worming (if due anyway) or a worm count, oral reydration therapy sachets (not up on product names for horses sorry) and pre- and pro-biotics, as TLM says, but after this period of time I think it's important that she's seen by the vet. Hope she's better soon.

[My Crazy Clan]

poor girl, fingers crossed for her!

[rockinghorse]

Any News ??

[Sasca]

hi,

She is absolutely no better, vet treatment didn't work so they are coming back out to run blood tests. I can count all the bones on her body and she is just really glum. Looks worse then when i first got her!!! Her foal hasn't caught it though and has been stabled with or next to her the whole time...suggesting its just something wrong with her...is that good or bad???

[Tiaki]

Oh no Sasca :( Poor Hazel I hope it's nothing serious. Is she eating and drinking ok? Did you put her onto the NAF Pink Powder? What about adding some more conditioning feeds into her diet to help with some weight gain?

Poor girlie. Please let us know how she gets on with the vets. Am thinking of you both **hugs**

xxx

[Sasca]

yup, she went onto pink powder and a high dose of norodine from the vets. She is on Spillers conditioning cubes and barley. She is eating and drinking normally, about the only time she shows a bit of spark....this is depressing

[vels mum]

So sorry to hear hazel isnt improving, I hope she turns a corner soon and picks up.
Good luck xxx

[Tiaki]

I think blood tests is the next thing to do then Sasca, maybe a urine test also. Hopefully they can pick something up from the samples which will be easily treated and she'll be back to herself in no time at all :)

xxx

[Sasca]

thank you....

Yeh bloods are next and 36hour fecal sample....nice!